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LIEB’S DAILY PRACTICE ROUTINE

LIEB’S DAILY PRACTICE ROUTINE:

WARM UPS TO DO EVERY DAY 20-30 MINUTES (BREATHING CAN BE DONE ANYTIME)

A: BREATHING EXERCISES – 10 REPETITIONS; THREE PART BREATH; LEANING ON ONE SIDE/BENDING OVER TOUCHING GROUND; “PUMP” ABDOMINAL AT END

B: PLAY ON MOUTHPIECE ALONE; GOAL IS RANGE OF 10TH; MELODIES, PATTERNS, SCALES, ETC.

BE CREATIVE!!

C: LONG TONES FOR FOLLOWING REASONS: NOW USING HORN FOR THREE PART BREATH;

NO SALIVA; CAPACITY; INTONATION (USE TUNING MACHINE); POST AND PRE-TONES;

VOLUME: USE LOUD/SOFT IN DIFFERENT DURATIONS

OVERTONE EXERCISES:

It is understood that the three part breathing regimen has been accomplished followed by   scales, melodies, intervals, etc., on the mouthpiece alone, off the horn-(for awhile using piano to check pitch accuracy)

PURPOSE: using ear and laryngeal feeling to “sing” pitches without horn

1-Preliminary to get the feel of laryngeal/vocal cord placement: play octaves-hi to low; low to high; high to low to high; low to high to low, etc., done with and without the octave key

PURPOSE: mimics the feeling of pitch placement in larynx and vocal cords

2-Basic overtone production exercise: fundamental to overtone; fundamental to overtone, back to fundamental; start on overtone and slur down to fundamental, etc.

PURPOSE: beginning of recognition as to what it feels like in vocal tract when playing without relying on embouchure movement (lower lip, jaw, teeth all play their customary “below the threshold of feeling” roles)

3-Matching exercise (MOST IMPORTANT of all) for pitch and timbre; fundamental to desired overtone to real fingering- (repeat this step as much as needed to match pitch/timbre) overtone; back down to fundamental.

Variation: start on overtone and slur down to fundamental, etc.

PURPOSE: tuning and timbral imagination being used; you have to “explain” to yourself what is missing in the REAL fingering color as compared to the overtone fingering on a given note

EXTENDED OT EXERCISES:

1-Vary sequence: from OT Bb for example go to third ot, first ot, to 4th ot, etc.-PURPOSE: makes overtone placement less predictable.

2-“Lester Young” from overtone to real fingering or visa versa as fast and smooth as possible

PURPOSE: smooth transition between ot and real fingering-more difficult the higher you go in ot series

3-Play from middle C all the way up WITHOUT octave key (scales, intervals, lines, etc); also play from middle C down WITH octave key open-do for a few minutes and then return to normal use and note the open feeling

PURPOSE: This exercise goes under the category of Exggeration (as in Exercise!!) to find a good norm when actual playing real fingerings

4-“Johnny Hodges” descending ½ step, then whole step, etc using vocal cords avoiding lowering of jaw

PURPOSE: flexibility and “stretching” laryngeal feeling.

5-Bugle Call: besides doing bugle call on lower fundamentals (Bb to Db) use “false” fundamentals as root meaning do Bugle from D up to A

PURPOSE: quick overtone placement and adjustment of higher ots

6-False fundamentals: do matching, varying sequence etc., using D up to A as fundamental.

PURPOSE: Exaggeration again!!

7-Alternate fingerings: as you go higher up in the horn there are more false fingerings available; play a scale, line, intervals, etc., using all the overtones and without octave key

PURPOSE: very useful in “real” playing for color variations and laryngeal adjustments.

8-Palm key altissimo: starting from palm D play a major 6th above and then a major ninth holding D; use all palm fingerings.

PURPOSE: Exaggeration of laryngeal feeling and useful in “real” playing.

9-Hold palm key fingerings and play all notes STILL sustaining the original pitch: hence overriding the tube (can be random fingerings)

PURPOSE: Proof that if vocal cord/laryngeal feeling is strong the pitch is truly coming from the vocal tract and NOT from fingerings per se; demonstrates the true source of pitch is in the inner ear with adjustments at the embouchure as needed, etc.; fingerings are making use of the tube for “real” playing

10-Double embouchure (double lip): play lines, scales, etc. with upper lip on top (and bottom) as light as possible downward teeth pressure; again for a few minutes, then return to normal playing and note the “open” feeling

PURPOSE: exaggerated “open” feeling in vocal tract.

11-Detailed matching colors from one note to another: play A and then down a third to F and back to A with real fingerings; note any color change between the two and try to match either the F to the A or visa versa using all of above principles to match color of original

PURPOSE: timbral imagination at work.

Do each extended exercise for a week or two before moving on; this is the “meditation” aspect of playing the horn. Sound color is everything and connection between ear-(inner hearing and imagination-chest and head tone recognition, etc.); mind-(directing energy to that part of the anatomy being used-vocal cords, larynx, etc.) and body execution (eventually muscle memory) is the goal leading to complete flexibility of tone color on every note at any time. Add the benefits of pitch discrimination, real time use of multiphonics, false fingerings, altissimo, etc.

 

Passings: Mr. Quarter Note – Jimmy Cobb (2020)

PASSINGS: MR. QUARTER NOTE-JIMMY COBB

Talk about a long life giving one’s all to the music. That was Jimmy Cobb…one of the sweetest men in the business. He got along with everybody, commanding respect and honesty on and off the bandstand with a demeanor that you couldn’t resist…..calm, cool and fully present in real time. Playing with Jimmy was something all jazz musicians would have loved to experience. His quarter note on the cymbal, seemingly one of the most obvious and direct method for getting everybody’s attention to feel the same thing at the same time was relentless. It made one commit to the quarter note and all that implies. This includes the all-important placement of that quarter note in relation to the ongoing pulse (top/bottom of the beat, etc.) Jimmy’s relationship with the quarter note was quite observable and definitely felt. In his hands the quarter note served as a rhythmical reminder to all towards what is truly important. JC gave Miles some of that medicine decades ago and surely wherever his most recent gig was. In the final analysis, jazz is about drums. For Jimmy the quarter note was king and could be considered a secret weapon, summoning performers and listeners alike to get it together on Mr. Cobb’s watch. (And by the way moving towards that goal, don’t forget to SWING….no matter what.!!)

RIP brother.….time to rest.

Gone But Not Forgotten: Jim Pepper

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN: JIM PEPPER

When I first heard Jim Pepper at a loft (110 Bowery), invited by my longest associate in music, master drummer Bob Moses, I said what the heck is that? The sound was GIGANTIC; the arpeggios were amazing, the intensity and emotion unmistakable. Coltrane and Ayler were obvious influences, but Jim’s singular unique approach to music was legendary. As I got to know Jim and play with him, the gentle and sweet side of his personality prevailed. He had been around the block so to say, but music was always first. Hearing him play “Smoke Gets In Your Eyes” or in this case “Ruby My Dear” made me want to cry. It was an honor to have known him.

Vic Juris, The Jazz Warrior

THE JAZZ WARRIOR: VIC JURIS
BY DAVE LIEBMAN

My first memory of Vic was at a clinic in Germany sometime in the mid
1980s. There were a lot of teachers and students attending but I do
remember taking note that there was something special in Vic’s playing
and importantly his general demeanor. I could tell he was ready, truly
interested in expanding his horizons and a desire to communicate
beyond clichés. After years of meeting musicians far and wide I can tell
certain things….subtle stuff…but basically fueled by a desire to learn
more. When I observe that attitude it rings a bell. Vic was as I could tell,
ready for prime time!!
By 1991 I was ready for a new group using keyboards and guitar. My
band leading experience with a guitar had been the Dave Liebman
Group featuring John Scofield for a few years around 1980. My concept
for this new group was to use the guitar as a quasi-second horn, leaving
the chordal information to the piano. I organized a “jam session” with
my choices for the band, which besides Vic included the perennial Tony
Marino, Jamey Haddad and Phil Markowitz. After a few standards (best
to hear someone playing straight ahead for starters) it felt good and we
started rehearsing. Vic was fine with the role of the guitar at that time
and off we went….for the next 20 plus years doing the dance:
teaching…performing…touring and recording, encompassing a
repertoire ranging from Ornette Coleman’s music to original material
totaling nearly 20 CD releases in the several incarnations of this group.
As well Vic started writing seriously for the band…great and challenging
tunes.
My initial supposition from Germany proved correct. Vic was a sponge
who wanted to learn and was willing to put the time in. When the Dave
Liebman Group became a quartet sans piano by the mid ‘90s, Vic had a
lot on his plate. Besides the eclectic nature of my musical tastes and

constant idiomatic detours, I encouraged Vic to use pedals, incorporate
electronic based effects as well as the acoustic guitar. He was
constantly trying out new sounds….I loved it! And now in a quartet
setting, Vic was the major soloist after me. To put it mildly Mr. Juris
had a lot on his proverbial plate!! The saving grace was that Vic just
“happens” to be the most serious musician I have known. He was
always ready with his cassette machine to tape what he wanted to shed
for the next rehearsal…clarifying a voicing and so on. With my
chromatic stuff it was a challenge to adapt and transplant piano
voicings to guitar, some heavy lifting to say the least. Vic took it to
heart…. going sometimes note for note. I never witnessed such change
and development of a musician over a period of time. And of course
there was the blues part of his playing having spent some time with
organ trios as well as good old rock ‘n’ roll….after all Vic belonged to
that special fraternity of New Jersey guitarists.
That’s the musical side, but with Vic there’s more. Besides having an
incredible desire to go ANYWHERE (we toured a lot), he loved to play.
In New York Vic worked all the time as well as teaching (students loved
him). His books on voicings and other guitar issues were inspiring.
There were semesters where he was teaching at three schools each
week in the New York area.
As a man Vic was one of the sweetest, most caring and generous
people I have ever known. Along with wife Kate (I was best man for the
wedding) their musical duo was fantastic. Kate could really sing. Their
love and respect for each other was obvious. When he left us, Vic was
just receiving some long-deserved notoriety and beginning to work as a
leader more and more. His reputation was growing as one of the
baddest cats on guitar whose time had finally come.

We all miss Vic. He touched a lot of lives. For me it was a privilege to
have spent nearly 25 years with this Prince of a man on and off the
bandstand. RIP my brother!!

PASSINGS: Lee Konitz

PASSINGS: LEE KONITZ

Lee Konitz’s career was the definition of individualism in jazz. Like Monk, like Lee’s long-time cohort Warne Marsh and of course “Professor” Lenny Tristano, being immersed in a style of music which begs for individualism, Lee struck gold. Can you imagine being in the same room hearing and watching Bird, while developing a completely different way of playing….in front of the master? Lee did it in spades.

Lee’s assets were remarkable: a truly tremendous ear; a conviction that everything was at the service of melody including harmony; a behind the pulse eight note rhythmic feel; all presented with a flexible and at times entrancing sound on the alto. Lee represented freedom, having what it takes musically and socially to be your own man. Yes, you can play what you want in jazz (theoretically that is), but you have to believe in yourself, practicing what you preach from a position of strength and confidence.

As a person, Lee was a real character. He could be abrasive and outspoken at times, yet very astute in his opinions that by the way comprise his interview book (which inspired me to do my auto bio book in a similar format). Lee was for sure not shy to express his views, even about himself regarding playing fast tempos, questions about intonation, etc. Bottom line was Lee could be brutally honest. But he had a sly sense of humor and was not shy when he communicated with the audience.

Lee would invariably show up at NY clubs checking out the scene. He was one of the few masters that taught a lot of students over the years,

(including my wife, Caris). He never said anything about the music he had just heard…so you couldn’t really tell what he felt (which in retrospect was probably the safest way to tread around him). But in the end he was truly humble with great knowledge about Lester Young and other notable pre be-bop players.

For most of his life Lee played with whomever and wherever, with famous guys and new talent. He would call the same war horse tunes that amazingly were always different no matter how many times you heard “All The Things,” “What Is This Thing” etc. He played with big bands, duos and all kinds of ensembles always being himself no matter the background or style. His recording with Elvin Jones and bassist Sonny Dallas titled “Motion” is a classic for time and changes improvising in a trio setting. Surprisingly and unique compared to most of his peers (McLean, McPherson, Woods, Cannonball) Lee loved to play free. He was so musical and melodic that he made even that idiom sound lyrical. Lee was totally respected but existed on a less than famous level of popularity, maybe even taken for granted…but that is another story.

Finally, there’s a track from a trio recording I did with Lee and Richie Beirach a few years ago….”Knowingly.” Out of nowhere Lee pulled out a soprano and played one of the most amazingly beautiful, improvised duos I have ever heard with Richie…..very deep and intimate.

One of the all-time greats, may you rest in peace.

Playing with Maestro Martial Solal

TWO NIGHTS WITH THE MAESTRO: MARTIAL SOLAL

As I expected it was a tremendous learning experience to play four duo sets
with Martial Solal in Paris a few days ago. First of all because of my age and
position, I either play most of the time with younger musicians or peers
(Saxophone Summit for example). But Martial at 88 years young and
DEFINITELY comes from another era. As I have described putting together
my newest group “EXPANSIONS” each generation in jazz has and does
have a different vantage point, most specifically rhythmically and
harmonically speaking. Martial comes out of the be-bop and even pre-bop
eras in some respects, especially the piano tradition of Tatum, Bud Powell, a
bit of Monk, even Teddy Wilson in some respects. I have never played with
anyone, for sure not in the most intimate of settings which is duo, who is
truly a child of the 1930’s through the 1950’s. To be overly general, what a
fourth voicing (McCoy Tynerish) is for me, a dominant seventh is for that
generation.
This created quite a challenge and I will admit that at times I had no idea
what he was playing either behind me or during his solos. His almost
constant reharmonization is out of this world. After the gig I was exhausted
in a different way that I sometimes am, not so much physically because of
travel, early departures, etc. In this case I was “thinking” like crazy, trying to
find a way through. In the harmonic realm besides the be and pre-bop
language he plays, Martial also sprinkles a scattering of 20th century
classical dissonances around, which might happen at any time. In fact,
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AT ANY MOMENT!! I can really feel the
experience someone from the Golden Age of jazz had playing every nite,
which Martial did for years in Paris backing everybody in jazz who came
through. His mind set is sort of “anything goes” at any moment. This could
mean harmonically, rhythmically and even the form or structure of a tune….
staying in one place for a minute before moving on, etc. As Wayne Shorter
so aptly titled one of his recent recordings, Martial plays “WITHOUT A
NET,” ready to jump off the cliff anytime.
(Small story note: Wayne and Martial played duo sometime in the past years
I think in London; Martial said Wayne refused to talk at all about the music
before they played….anyone have that concert?)

There were definitely moments of great communication, especially on
ballads and when playing free, which places Martial in a more advanced era
than some of his peers because you could definitely feel that he enjoys
playing that way, even extended moments sometimes. Of course his
technique is limitless and way beyond the norm; here he is definitely a child
of Tatum and Oscar Peterson. The rhythmic feel can waver between very
legato and quite staccato but definitely with a different shall I say “lilt” than
my generation. Sometimes during the playing he will insert a kind of off
beat vamp, which is quite interesting in the implications that who knows,
could lead to a different approach playing with him in the future?
It goes without saying he knows a million tunes in any key, something those
guys all did as a matter of course. He also expressed his wished to repeat
tunes, even on the same night. This is another point that I understood from
my time with Elvin Jones and Miles and I think in general from that
generation…if a tune works meaning musicians enjoy playing it and the
audience “gets it,” then why not, and by the way how about really learning a
tune? I know for me I am always looking for variety through at the least,
change of material. In any case we did repeat some tunes even in the same
night. Obvious point….the audience changes so it is new for them.
Finally, Martial has a touch that ranges from the most delicate to forceful
especially when he descends into the low register for some cluster colors.
Besides standards we each brought two originals. From my side he chose
G.I.G. which is a ii-V type tune that I wrote for George and Ira Gershwin;
the other called “Cosmos” is a rubato ballad with straight ahead type chords.
Martial’s “In and Out” was a beautiful ballad which after a wonderful
melody became a complete free improve, something I wasn’t quite sure how
to approach to be honest. The other one (French title) was a real challenge
rhythmically. Unfortunately on the second nite my soprano copped a plea
and I played the whole performance on tenor which in some respects
presented a challenge of tessitura, meaning range between the tenor and
piano….a technical matter which did affect playing this composition.
Above all, from the purely personal, non-musical side, this man is one of the
sweetest guys I have met. He was generous to me, open to suggestions,
completely relaxed on the bandstand (some banter in French which often had
the audience chuckling) and with great stamina, not just for his age…. I
mean in general. He told me that he had stopped practicing in recent times
after some medical problems and believe me this guy is a practicer!! He is
the father in law of a close friend, sopranoist Jean-Charles Richard.
Sometime in the spring if I recall, I had dinner with the family and magically
this lead to a desire to play with me. It appears he “warmed-up” in concert
with one of his oldest compatriots, Lee Konitz. These two guys go way back
and have performed in duo countless times over the decades. In fact, I found
myself more than once asking inwardly WHILE PLAYING, what would Lee
do?
All in all it was a tremendous learning experience and in its way historical.
After all Solal is probably the best known European artist internationally-
speaking over 60 plus years and it was an honor, a privilege to meet and
make music together. Of course the audience in such an intimate setting as
the Sunside is really enjoyed it…and when it comes to serious jazz lovers,
Paris is one of the best.
I will never forget my two days with the true MAESTRO! Thank you so
much Martial for your generosity of spirit.
Thanks (merci mercy merci!) to Martine Palmé for her professionalism
putting this together; Agnès who is the sound lady at the Sunside and the
boss of the club, Stéphane for their help; and of course Jean-Charles Richard
and Jean-Jacques Quesada….as always.
(From what I understand one set of the concerts from the second night will
be on the web through Radio France for New Year’s Eve. Details to follow
close to the date.)

STEVE LACY: THE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER by Dave Liebman

STEVE LACY: THE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER by Dave Liebman

I can’t say that I knew Steve personally that well. We did one duo concert in Italy which was interesting to say the least, a story in itself. But of course, being the king of the soprano saxophone meant I had to be familiar with his music and artistic process. He predates Shorter and Trane on soprano….and made a commitment to stay exclusively with the “fish horn.”

Steve was the epitome of the true artist…. covering a lot of musical ground in a unique, personal way while being steadfast to one’s convictions. The bottom line is holding one’s ground against any encroachment of a person’s aesthetic, usually honed over a substantial period of time. CONSISTENCY is the mantra. For those listeners who cared, Steve represented real creativity and true art as a life-long force for good, inspiring to all.

There was one aspect that stands out and unifies Steve’s work over the years. That was his eclecticism concerning the material he chose to explore, something that not many of his peers were into during the ’50s/‘60s. Steve interacted with poets, singers and I imagine dancers and painters, et al. Then there are the Monk tunes that Steve truly loved, dedicating a good part of his time during the New York early years in a group that played only Monk. He made these very idiosyncratic songs part and parcel of his repertoire. Finally, in single handed fashion, Lace popularized the art of a solo wind performance. He would come out on stage and somehow, playing only soprano, create an atmosphere that challenged the public to stay in the trenches with him, a voyage like none other, ON SOPRANO SAX ONLY!!

Musically speaking, no matter how diverse the musical material, Steve, (like Miles to some degree) always sounded like himself. His what I call “thoughtful” approach, dry sound, use of the altissimo and other saxophone effects, with an inner logic and often slow meditative pace, made Lacy an important and truly unique figure in jazz improvisation for decades.

Steve and I were both Jews from New York, which is itself a discussion for another time. Dry humor was his secret weapon as it was for many of the1950’s musicians who sustained a minimalist zen-like quality in their

music; Giuffre, Konitz, Bley, etc. There were a lot of improvisational approaches during that time besides hard bop and the rise of Coltrane…but experimental ideas could co-exist with the tradition. Steve could play inside or outside… it was all music…period! (This was before “free jazz” became a style of playing and codified.) These masters were like scientists, handling their oeuvre with an almost formal/classical approach. Steve was that way about his art with no compromises.

In addition, his book “Findings” is one of the great music texts of all time beyond the soprano sax. Then there’s the collection of interviews called “Steve Lacy: Conversations” which is a tome of knowledge….all imbued with his personal approach to music and life in general.

My solo soprano recording from 1986 was dedicated to Steve titled “The Loneliness of The Long Distance Runner. He was the epitome of the runner artistically. The soprano sax is quite a challenge to master and Steve Lacy was THE man for decades on that instrument into the future……a true long distance runner. 

About Jazz Rhythm-answers to questions posed by DMA candidate Nicholas Petumenos

1)    How have you personally worked on your time?

   I studied with Lennie Tristano for awhile and he insisted on playing with the metronome, always on 2nd and 4th beat of a measure. But more important, you get a great time feel from people who have it. I spent  time on the bandstand with Elvin Jones opening a universe of rhythm and next  with Miles who had metronomic time….if you weren’t playing on top of the beat with him (mostly the drummer) you were dragging!! It’s great to play with someone who has a patent on a certain feel.

 2)    How do you teach time?

I have students play with a metronome corresponding to different landing points, i.e., one, the and of one, two, the and of two, etc. I also instruct students of all instruments to practice playing with the ride cymbal “clave” (even a dish with a pencil!!). Most of all is to play along with great drummers.

 3)    Is swing metronomic?

 The beat is an area, not a point. Some elasticity is desirable.

4)    What should one do when someone in the ensemble is rushing or dragging?

Sometimes you have to agree to disagree, and that’s where things get really good, obviously up to a point. This can be a tacit agreement or the subject can be verbally discussed. Again, some elasticity is desirable….it’s better to be pliable than stiff. It is important to realize that certain tendencies are not the same across the spectrum of different tempos, which may result or suggest a different feel.

5)    Can you point to a few recordings that you consider to be examples of superb musical timing?

There is a version of Miles Davis playing “No Blues” live on the Steve Allen show that is available on YouTube… serious swinging with Ron Carter front and center-Wayne’s first or so gig with the band;  Frank Sinatra with Count Basie; “Live at the Sands,”… the whole thing, but especially “Fly Me to the Moon” John Coltrane  “Tunji”  “Four” on Miles Davis’  “Four and More” is a good example of rushing at it’s best. 

Interview: Phrasing and Jazz Vocalists

Irini Konstantinidi – Jazz Zang – M2 3102912

The Royal Conservatory of The Hague – Koninklijk Conservatorium

Audio:

Title of the research project:

Phrasing and interplay from the vocal point of view.

Phrasing as the vocalist’s tool to stimulate interplay within a jazz combo. 

Research Question:

How can phrasing be a tool of the jazz vocalist towards stimulating interplay and creative response in a band’s musical conversation, while singing the theme or improvising?

  1. What does the word phrasing mean to you?

Phrasing is pervasive from the beginning and end of a note; how you articulate the note…. legato vs staccato and everything in between; the end of a note like whether you do a vibrato or cut it off or let the note fade away; time feel meaning the swinging eighth note, which is the essence of jazz rhythm and swing; nuance of course which makes, each artist unique….meaning in essence the way each individual speaks and gestures. Like in real life, nobody talks the same or expresses themselves the same. For example the use of nuance for a vocalist might be a particular way you might end a note with breathiness or a “fall-off.” Maybe u bend a note which you can do a lot easier than a piano can do! (laughs) These are all the things that a horn player thinks about and are absolutely relevant to any singer, especially if they’re trying to do any kind of improvisation. The main way I teach this nuance subject is transcription. The way I teach transcription (and you can find it on my website under Educational Articles) is that the student sings or plays exactly…I mean EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY (I can’t stress it enough!!!) like the original artist that you’re copying. So if you’re singing along with John Coltrane or Betty Carter, no matter who it is, there should be no difference between the student and the artist being copied. When I hear you sing or play, you should sound exactly in unison with the artist. That’s how I address matters of phrasing (a very over used word by the way. Because there’s no way to really notate all the things I just talked about. We can try but it’s quite tedious and a drag. The only way to learn about nuance it is to duplicate somebody who does those things well.

This also pertains to tone and sound on your instrument which you try to emulate also. Again, I don’t mean only the notes, because everybody pays attention to that obviously. The essence of transcription is the aural process, learning things that cannot be put on paper. If I put a solo on a paper in front of you and I say play it, we don’t know how it’s supposed to sound with the tone, nuance, etc. It’s going to turn into an exercise. But once we hear Hank Mobley do it or Freddie Hubbard for example, then we get the feel, the kind of articulation, the nuance and we start to build, in an oral way from the master to the student, the true vocabulary without necessarily writing it down.

After you have copied the solo EXACTLY you get a rhythm section or play-along and execute the solo without leaning on the recording. We might change the key or change the tempo. Then I need you to write two “perfect” choruses in the artist’s style for a jumping off point to play your own solo, again in the style of the artist you are copying. Then there are some other things with analysis that I mention in the article about taking all the ii-v lines for example, putting them all in one group on a page; choose two or three lines that are superior to the others; do them in all twelve keys and then going back to a play along and sing those ii-vs that you liked with variations. There’s a lot to be learned in this transcription process and I urge you again to read the article or get the DVD on this subject. The whole point is to use transcription for artistic evolution because if it was just an exercise, it wouldn’t be as useful.

  1. Why is phrasing considered to be one of the most important elements in jazz music?

Phrasing is the most important element in all music. It means the way somebody speaks, beyond the content; the manner in which somebody sings, plays, talks and does anything. etc. We all have our own way of translating the material. In jazz everything is individual, having one’s own sound and approach. As I said phrasing is a general word like the word food. Within that overall expression are the ingredients that make something sound like jazz or country music or Beethoven.

3. Besides the lyrics and the fear of risk taken while scatting, what differences have you noticed in the rhythmical phrasing of an instrumentalist in comparison to that of a vocalist, especially when playing the theme of a song or during their solos?

I have a lot of respect for singers who are good because you don’t press buttons or push keys. You have to find the pitch and it’s all within you with no instrument to fall back on. For singers there are certain limitations because you could never sing as fast as I can play. Obviously sometimes we (especially horn players) get a little carried away because we can move our fingers faster than our brains and ears leading to what I call a disease “fingeritis!!” That’s not a good thing. Singer have to also deal with the length of phrase a lot more than I do, because I can blow for longer than you can keep a breath.

Again, a singer has the disadvantage of not being able to just put their fingers down and play some phrases…..they have to work on it and be really dedicated to getting the nuances and all the pitches correct. It is not easy and I have a lot of respect for singers who can do that.

  1. Besides the obvious contribution of the story that lyrics offer into music, what more strong points or advantages does a singer have that could reinforce her/his role in the band?

When a singer is in front of the band it immediately draws the audience’s attention not just as a musical object but physically as well. When you are a singer the spotlight is on you big time and if you’re a woman it’s even more so. Therefore, before the first note is heard there is already a vibe by the physical presentation of the singer, standing in front and commanding attention. They have to be aware that they are setting the mood. Within a few bars we hope that the attention is now on the music and not on the physicality of it. Again, the singer brings something special to the band, because everybody else has an instrument in their hands except you. So that creates more attention to the way you look and the way everything feels. You’re producing sound with your body while we produce sound with our bodies through an instrument. Your instrument is your body. On the positive side a singer can leave a lot more space easily because you don’t push buttons meaning your hands are free to help out with expression and feeling. And of course the singer has lyrics as a kind of secret weapon, meaning you have the story line which immediately is felt by the audience. For example if you sing “now the moon is out”…….it’s a perfect place to breath. If I go bapa-doo-bapa doo, I have to decide when I’m going to stop. So you have an advantage in this respect, that you can really leave space and use it to your advantage.

5. How can a jazz musician achieve a more adventurous and interesting phrasing in your opinion?

The first level of learning something is imitating somebody else. We learn a lot by copying. And that’s what it is when you’re transcribing. You’re singing the way Hank Mobley is playing. And then you start to develop your own way of doing it and if you’re aware of that, you are going to probably come up with something unique. It might not be the invention of rocket science but it will somehow be you. When I hear Irini sing I know from the first four notes I know that it’s her and not Stephanie, sitting alongside. And that something that happens naturally because it’s your personality coming through, but you have to work on it. You have to listen to yourself and see what it is there that not Sarah Vaughan or Ella Fitzgerald or whomever, but you. It’s probably a mistake or something that wasn’t perfect because now it’s you and these things happen of course. So there’s a little bit of naturalness in somebody’s phrasing that can be noticed but also a lot of study has to go on. If John Coltrane and Miles Davis sat down and waited for the inspiration to come to them, we wouldn’t know who they were. They heard something and expanded on it. Being adventurous has to do with one’s personality and work ethic.

The first thing you do with the tape is to take notes of anything you need to correct. We stop the tape to say: “You know…I didn’t mean that G natural…. I really meant the G sharp….let me play that”.

The second thing you do with the tape is listen for anything that sounds like it’s unique, even if it’s just one note that you sang in a certain way. Make that a separate piece or exercise and so on. The next time you sing “On Green Dolphin Street” you put that little thing in there…..you put it everywhere….you make a big thing out of a little thing. And it grows. It’s the seed that becomes a plant, that becomes flower, then becomes a tree. That’s the process. That’s why we tape. We don’t tape to sit there and say: “Oh look how wonderful this is.” That’s fun but the work is to be listening objectively, no criticism, no “good or bad”… just what it is and how can I do this better.

  1. What are the elements of phrasing itself that encourage the interplay within a band?

Again the most important element is going to be nuance, how do you take a note and make it yours. The second is rhythm.

The way you sing your eight notes and your rhythmic ideas will immediately have an effect on the rhythm section. That’s what they’re waiting for. They’re not waiting for the C7b9 really, but for the rhythmic information of the soloist to reach their ears and then for them to take that material and see what can be done with it. That’s how we have that musical conversation called spontaneous improvisation.

  1. What different types of interplay are there in your opinion?

There is the one night stand and then there is the group that you try to keep together. Hopefully you are performing with people who are better than you and more experienced. With people like that there are subtle signals that come through the band and the interaction is a result of the familiarity with the body of music that’s being played. That’s why we do jazz standards because everybody knows “Green Dolphin Street” and what goes on in the pedal point, etc. When it’s a group that knows each other it’s much more specific because I know how my piano player will phrase certain things since I’m used to him doing that which gives me a big advantage. That’s why having an organized group affects the depth of the music. For myself, keeping a group together for years for me is extremely important because a lot of things are more understood without having to talk about them.

Last night I played with a wonderful drummer. When I stop, he should start to do more. If I’m phrasing and I like to stop and leave space, he’ll say ok that’s an opportunity for him to suggest the next activity. And that’s how the conversation which takes place between two musicians or three or four is what I am talking about. If the other musicians know how you play it is a big advantage towards the success of a performance. You start to take more chances which is inevitable because after a while you feel secure. I am thinking: “Let me try this” cause I know the drummer will save me and will give me the downbeat when I get lost. Confidence has a lot to do with what we’re talking about here. If you want to do something that’s a little different or unusual or something with the rhythm or phrasing, if you do it with a lot of conviction and believing it, even if it’s not perfect, a lot of times it works quite well. There are lots of things happening without consciously knowing it because we’re experienced in the music and that can sometimes be enough. There’s room for trying something and seeing what happens. No subjectivity… just objective analysis.

8. In what way(s) can the interplay become a sort of musical conversation?

The whole idea of jazz improvisation is to have a conversation about a subject that is agreed upon which may be the song or the tempo or the key, the lyrics or whatever. There’s constantly a conversation going on, no different than if I put four people around the table in a café and we talk about football. Everybody will have something to say. One person will have something brilliant to say, the other person will have nothing to say… maybe with a lot of energy, maybe very soft. It’s exactly what people do when they’re talking about a subject. That’s what we do in jazz.

  1. How do you teach your students to become more elaborate and interactive while playing in a band?

First of all they have to do their homework as we said at the beginning. Look back to the imitation process and get it up to the highest level. That’s number one. When we get to the playing situation, you have to make them aware of what they’re doing, what they’re playing has possibilities beyond what they think…so you ignite a conversation. That’s why the tape is so important to listen back. You might have done something and then it went unanswered or undeveloped. “Oh, man… I had a great idea on the third chorus and I left it instead of exploring it.” This is a kind of a self-analysis that you have to do. You have to learn to be your own teacher. And that means looking at what you do, improving it, getting it as close to perfect as possible. Not to be obsessive about it but to be as excellent as you can. “How can I use this in a larger way than I’m using it now” and everything will follow when you start doing that. It takes its own course. In the end, once you have a certain amount of vocabulary, you can be pretty much on your own. Once you do your homework as we call it, then you’re ready to take more chances and naturally feel more confident. These things follow each other.